Numbers were down slightly for this years show, as for a variety of reasons, a few of the regular attendees coudn't make it. Even so it was another great day out. Around lunchtime and during a much needed beak from my game, I had a wander round and took photos of the other games on show.
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| A BKCII game set in the Western Desert 1941? The outskirts of Tobruk can be seen top right. |
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| This makes me want to consider this as another theatre to game, especially as we played this lots as kids. All figures and AFV's from Pendraken (I think). |
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| The sand on the bases apparently comes from Libya or Tunisia! |
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| 28mm Napoleonics by Cirencester Wargames Club. |
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| Loads of wonderully painted figures to marvel at. |
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| Cuba circa 1715, inpsired by a Stuart Insch article I believe. |
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| Lots of lovely scratch built terrain on show. |
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| Simple but very effective. They looked great when filled with troops. |
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| Always a pleasure to see Spencer Smith's figures in action. |
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| Afghanistan, 1925. Our brave chaps leading a raid against Afghan forces who have been kidnapping locals. |
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| Again, lots of nice scratch built terrain on show. |
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| Mighty armoured cars to quell the wily Afghan. |
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| These troops (Empress Miniatures) can be used for WWI too. |
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| Normandy 1944, using Keith Flint's 'Startline' rules. |
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| The P-47 Thunderbolts have made short work of the Panthers. |
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| Wonderful figures and terrain from the collections of Keith Flint and Roy boss. |
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| A truly portable wargame by Jon Billington, using his own rules. |
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| Everything fits in this box, bar the board. Very neat! |
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| Eastern Front, WWII, using H&R 6mm figures and Battlegroup rules. |
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| A very nicely presented game. |
The Stuart Asquith Trophy
Each year a game is awarded a trophy in honour and memory of the late, great, Stuart Asquith. This year Willz Harley won it for his wonderful Cuba 1715 game.
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| Willz receiving his trophy from Keith Flint, flanked by Derek and Andy from Big Battles. |
Post Show Thoughts
Another fun day out at the CWD and always good to meet up with fellow gamers and have a chat about all things wargames related. A few topics that came up during the day as well as my thoughts:
- For most of us, gaming on a 6' x 4' table is a luxury in the UK. Yes, we can do it, but it invariably means taking over the dining room and all the disruption that that causes. So being to play on a larger table and with plenty of space to move around, was great.
- It was nice to see a mix of scales and periods, with 6mm and 10mm making a good showing. Not something you tend to see at the bigger shows.
- Storage issues came up again and again throughout the day, whether that be for figures, terrain or even books. Once again as we reach a certain age, we are all seriously looking at downsizing our collections to focus on those core periods and rules that we really enjoy.
- Related to the above, trying out new periods as we get older with related eyesight issues etc gets harder, as where do we store the stuff or find the time and energy to actually paint it all? The Commission Figurine miniatures I used garnered a lot of interest as a simple and very cost effective way to get a new army painted with minimal effort compared to say a 15mm or 28mm figure.
- I think we all appreciated the look that smaller figures bring to the table, as you do get the feel or a bigger battle compared to say those using 28mm miniatures. This was certainly commented upon with my game and both the Western Desert and Eastern Front ones using 10mm and 6mm figures respectively.
- We celebrated the fact that our hobby can be enjoyed on many levels, whether it being painting 28mm figures to a very high level, reading, scenario planning and or course playing the game. Each to their own but that rich diversity is to be celebrated.
- One chap was selling off loads of books, as he wanted to do this now, rather than leave it for his family to do when he is no longer around. Again a topic that is coming to the fore as we all enter our 60's or 70's. We pointed out that some of his books we very valuable and collectible and that he should really sell them on ebay. I was tempted to buy some, but I'm trying to be good as although nice to haves, they would have just sat on the shelf. Maybe I'll come to regret this!
- Rules! Two themes emerged, one that as we get older we want to stick with rules we know so that we can focus on the game, rather than flicking through a rulebook. The second is trying to sell old rules, or not even ones that old, is pretty hard, especially if a new and supposedly better version has just come out. Also the sheer proliferation of rules means that finding someone who might be interested is getting ever harder. So I can see many books that I haven't been able to shift going to recycling.
- I jokingly said to Keith's wife that it will be hard to spot someone who is not and old, white, grey haired man at the show! Then she raised the valid point of where are all the younger gamers? In line with much of the above, space, time, storage etc all come to the fore, especially for the ex-GW crowd who are often happy to play with a few figures (think Kill Team) and minimal terrain. Our local store runs GW games on a 4' x 4' table or smaller with just a few very basic mdf runis with a psray can paint job and that's it. So if they're happy with that, it would be hard to get them into something historical, even if you go down the Bolt Action route. Then add in the ease of computer or online games where it is just plug and play. I'm not sure the answer but it made me think.
- Selling terrain is even harder than selling books!
- Last, but by no means least, it was great once again meeting up with fellow gamers in a nice and relaxed atmosphere, where you have plenty of time to chat, see the games and just enjoy our wonderful hobby in all its aspects. What's not to like?
What Next?
To be honest I'm not sure, but I fancy getting back to my WWII campaigns, and painting the figures required for this, having spent plenty of time on Napoleonics. I'll just have to wait and see.
Thanks for reading and comment always appreciated!
TTFN.
Thanks for putting up those pictures Steve especially after what must have been a tiring day. I particularly liked the fortress in the Cuban game. A number of your comments strike a chord with me - I should get rid of some of my figures but when there is a chance the period may come back in favour I think perhaps not! WW2 is a good candidate for going as I can't capture the enjoyment of my younger days. And then you write a report of a BKC game and......
ReplyDeleteYour earlier post was also interesting. In spite of the few down sides I think the fact that it was a 'fun game' is the main thing.
Thanks Jim:). It was tiring and I certainly felt my age after 7 hours on my feet, but a nice tired as it were. At least the drive home was only an hour, so good on that front too. WWII has always been my favourite period, but whilst I know I have too many forces, I can't yet bring myself to sell any of them off. Maybe after this show some common sense might prevail...
DeleteLovely looking games, I really like the scratch built terrain! Lots of younger players playing 40k at the club, some are transitioning to 1940k or Bolt Action!
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
Lots of inspire one at the show Iain, as all the table are easily achievable at home, some if you have the space that is. Bolt Action is a natural transition as it is 1940K as you say!
DeleteAn interesting read and it looked like it was a great day out, lot's of cracking looking games, always love seeing Willz Spencer Smiths, he has a great collection, talented painter.
ReplyDeleteCertainly a good day out and plenty of games to get ideas and inspiration from. Always good to see Willz's games and figures, with the scratch built terrain being the icing on the cake.
Deleteso how did your game go?
ReplyDeleteNice pics of the other games, I do like seeing what's on offer around the world. and glad the show was a good experience for you.
Is 6x4 really a luxury? I feel spoiled now. 😁
The AAR on the game can be found here Stew: https://wargameswithtoysoldier1685-1985.blogspot.com/2025/10/cotswold-wargames-day-part-1.html
DeleteIt is nice to see what makes a show in the US, where the conventions are so different to our shows. I think the UK has the smallest average square footage for houses in Europe:(. I can accomodate a 6' x 4' table, but it means major relocation of stuff from the dining room, plus that room being out of commission for a few days.
It was great to meet up for a quick chat Steve, you game looked very nice, thanks for your kind comments and support. It was a fantastic day and always goes in too fast.
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Good to see you Willz, if only briefly and little chance to chat. Maybe next year we can do better? The day does fly by and great to meet up with familair faces and new ones too.
DeleteHi Steve, a good showing for WWII and Napoleonics. I could have sat at the side of any of those tables and just enjoyed the play and I like what Jon Billington was doing on that smaller space.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that there is a generalised view on storage and finding some things difficult to sell. Last year I took 90% of my rule systems to the recycle centre, unfortunately drastic, but a problem dealt with at a single stroke.
A shame to hear that the visitor numbers were lower, but I think ripples in the economy are starting to surface. My son called into his garage the other day and asked if the had been busy, they said that fuel sales do go up and down, but that they had had their worst 2 weeks that they can recall and I am guessing the sale of fuel is a good measure of economic activity.
All the games had something to offer the gamer and like you, I could happily have played in any of them. Jon was inspired to try something smaller and easier to set up by my 2' x 2' games, so nice to know some appreciate them;)! As he said, sometimes the thought of clearing the dining room to set up a game and all the effort involved, means it rarely happens.
DeleteIt's nice to know others face the same issues on the storage front, often caused by years of slowly buying stuff until you suddenly realise you have too much stuff! Numbers were down as some were on holiday, so couldn't make it, or had prior commitments. Add in outside pressures on all of us and maybe a show attendance and the cost of getting there is a luxury for some these days.
I played a lot of WWII Western Desert as a kid in 1/72 too. It must have been a fad! The WD game looks great. Very impressed by the look of the Cuba table. Marvelous fortress. I thought the modelling looked very much like one I saw Wiltz working on during several VWC Zoom meetings. Imagine my surprise when I see that the fortress WAS Wiltz' and he won the Asquith Trophy! Good Day 2 presentation. Thank you!
ReplyDeleteThe Western Desert was easy to do as kids as no real terrain required, other than a few rocks on the driveway! Willz scratch building ticks so many boxes for me as that's the sort of stuff you used to see in the magazines years ago. Althought today's 3D printed stuff is superb, there is something special about home made terrain.
DeleteWooow what a great looking games Steve!
ReplyDeleteThey were indeed Michal:)!
DeleteThanks for providing this overview of the CWS Steve. Looks like a nice scale event. 7 hours on your feet though. Phew!
ReplyDeleteMy fave looking game has to be the 1715 game and it deservedly won the prize in my opinion. I'd like to do some form of 18th century amphibious game.
As for downscaling: I'm far from that point mentally speaking. Other than shifting my Baccus Napoleonics. In fact I have some unfulfilled gaming aspirations.
The arthritis in my knee is now playing up, no doubt in some part to standing for so long. At least I slept well that night! Hmmm, 18thC amphibious operations, now there's a thought. Of course you have some more limited options with the waterways in Europe for Marlborough's campaigns et al. I think those having to think about serious downsizing were those with mainly 28mm collections and who do not have large dedicated games rooms. Mind you if I painted up all of my lead pile, I'm sure I'd run out of space too!
DeleteTwo great reports, Steve…thanks, and well done putting on the BPII game with your excellent Commission mdf figures. Photos were very good indeed, and excellent games on show - looks like a day I’ll regret missing 🙃. Intrigued by Jon Billington’s game. Any idea if it was a version of Bob Cordery’s Portable Wargame? Cheers.
ReplyDeleteThanks Martin and the Comission Figurines were getting plenty of nice comments:). Jon's game was using his home brewed rules and I did point him in the direction of Bob's rules, which might be of interest to him.
DeleteSome great looking games, Steve, and interesting reflections. Despite currently on a 28mm project, I am constantly being pulled to get back to my 6mm MDF armies.
ReplyDeleteThanks Richard:). I've neglected my MDF armies for far too long, so when I went back to them I really enjoyed the speed of painting them and the overall charm they have, especially with the gloss lacquer,
DeleteLovely photos. Spanish against Prussians are somehow difficult to look at without some chaos in my head. :-D
ReplyDeleteThanks Andre:). It can be hard seeing troops in certain colours and not assosciate them with other Nations than those depicted in the game.
DeleteThanks for a really nice report on what was obviously a good day! WIllz's Cuba game looked fantastic, and great to see the Spencer-Smiths. All the other games looked good too, of course! Some food for thought, too..
ReplyDeleteGlad you enjoyed it David and Willz's game did look great and ticked many boxes, like many other games too.
DeleteAll looks good to me Steve. I particularly like the look of that portable game - being a relatively small “footprint” something like that would be easily achievable (with the bonus of being able to leave a battle still set up, part way through a game).
ReplyDeleteCheers,
Geoff
Thanks Geoff:). Chatting with Jon and the ability just to grab the box and board for a quick game with no disruption, allows him to get many more games in than he would otherwise.
DeleteFirst in with your report as usual Steve! Great to see the photos and hear your views. I am fortunate in that I got my downsizing done about 5 years ago when I retired, and can accomodate my small collection in my 'study'. Plus a dining room where I can just about manage an 8' x 6' table on the rare occasions I need it. Thinking about friends with very large collections who are getting on a bit like me is thought provoking, but each of us will find our own solution regarding what happens to all our stuff when we're gone.
ReplyDeleteAnd on that cheerful note I'll end. Thanks for supporting the show Steve, and it was great to see you on the day.
Thanks Keith and I did it whilst my game and show impressions were still fresh in my mind! How, when and if we dispose of our collections is of course a very personal thing. But I'm always reminded of a programme I watched a few years ago on a toy auction house, where they were getting huge model railway collections to try and sell, but struggling as younger people weren't interested in the hobby compared to years ago, nor had the space to house many of the displays.
DeleteSplendid Steve and some great looking games on show. I guess we do all have some similar themes…storage being a big one, personally I’m slowing my collecting but not really looking to downsize at the moment.
ReplyDeleteThanks Matt:)! As mentioned to Keith above, when we begin to address these issues is a very personal matter, or might be forced by house downsizing and the consequent lack of storage space.
DeleteThanks very much for taking the time and making the effort to report on the other games at the do last Sunday; much appreciated. Congratulations to Willz for a well-deserved award too. But all the games certainly look very good. Hope I might be there next year!
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome and glad you enjoyed it:). Willz game ticked many boxes for me and the other gamers, but nice to have a show with such a broad offering of the types of games on display.
DeleteOh - and I'm still mulling over your Post Show Thoughts! Quite a lot to think about there...
ReplyDeleteAs we get older we do tend to have much to ponder around our collections. Even my modest pile of soldiers, I do wonder if anyone would want them or still be pushing them around in the next 20-30 years or so? Sobering thought really!
DeleteThanks for great photos and a nice report, Steve. Sorry I couldn't make it as I was away (yet again). I'll get to a CWD yet! Reflections on your reflections: you confirm the wisdom/luck of our choice at Oxford to go with 6mm/10mm and BBB rules: the 19th century wars are so varied that we can play a very different game every week with the same ruleset, and the armies don't take up too much space and are easily portable for club nights. It's a formula that's kept our end of the club amused for 15 years now ...
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome Chris:)! With my 10mm figures I can easily play a game on a 2' x 2' table all the way up to the 'standard' 6' x 4' one. It also tends to look more like a battle in my eyes, due to the feeling of room to manoeuvre etc. Each to their own of course!
DeleteLovely report Steve, and thanks for making time from your own solo game to chat to me. I agree with many others on your previous blog post - your terrain and MDF figures made a super visual impact. As you know I actually got to play with Willz great scratch built Cuban fort, even sallying out using British scaling ladders to see off British troops back to their boats! Willz explained that the Prussian figures were to make up numbers as he did not have enough British figures. Just to note that the invasion of Cuba was in 1762, not 1715, but what's 47 years when we are all "getting older" as your blog goes on about. C'mon , I'm 73 and still grubbing around on the floor to retrieve recalcitrant dice.....and making a 12 x 8 sculpted gaming table single handed. Wargamers just need to stay fit and forego the bacon butty breakfasts. Great to see you and many others again.
ReplyDeleteThanks Chris and good to have a brief chat with you too:). Again thanks for clarifying the Cuba game date and why Willz had Prussian figures. Not something we would have worried about as kids! 73? You look younger than that!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the age compliment - it's 15 years of pescatarian diet - no meat but not vegan.
DeleteYour pictures from the CWD show interesting games, the point about smaller scales being well made I thought. However, your closing remarks on selling on collections and the scarcity of younger gamers to take it on touched a nerve here. I don't have the answer sadly...
ReplyDeleteGlad you enjoyed it David:). I don't think any of us has an answer to be honest. Looking at my modest book collection (one IKEA cabinet's worth) and I wonder how much will end up in landfill when I've shuffled off this mortal coil. Ditto my figures, terrain etc. Easier with 28mm I would venture, but the market is limited even with these. Maybe we will get a clearer idea in the coming years...
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