As mentioned recently, Dave and I have been working on a list for use in 18thC India for our forthcoming Honours of War game at the Cotswold Wargames Day. This is based upon admittedly limited reading on the mid-18thC in India period, but I feel enough has been read to make some informed decisions, at least for what we have planned. As always our games are to have fun, have a feel of the period and hopefully learn something along the way too!
Now please feel free to comment, belittle our ideas (not too much😉) or make suggestions to improve things. Afterall this is very much a work in progress and by no means set in stone. Things might change if and when I get chance to run a few trial games, or during the game itself on the day. We are flexible in our approach as it's only a game afterall!
Background Info
The early days of the Honourable East India Company and the conflicts it was involved in have little info with regards to the battles fought. There appears to have been lots of bribes prior to battles to get one side to defect, no intervene or simply ride away, with the battles not being battles in say a mid-18thC European sense, as there was little action, despite large numbers involved. So there is some artistic licence that can be taken in how to replicate these actions and it is up to you how you want to reflect this. These then are our take on things:
The French and British sent some European troops to support their respective trading concerns in India. These were the best troops there and so it is appropriate to class them as Superior. Each of the Companies had their own troops or militia that were trained, but no especially to any high standard. So these have been classed as Standard. Given both sides used lots of Sepoys due to the limited number of Europeans there, they were relatively well trained to support the Europeans in military actions, yet could be fragile, hence classing them Standard for shooting and melee but Inferior Class for rallying.
For our game and for fun, we have included European ships crew as well as some nominal Jacobite forces after the failure of the '45. Whilst not good for shooting that are pretty good at getting stuck in, hence the Onferior shooting but Superior melee.
Both sides Light Infantry, of which there were large numbers of, they were more used to raiding rather than pitched battles, so these are classed as Inferior Light Infantry. The same is broadly true of the Indian and Afghan Light Cavalry, that are also classed as Inferior. The limited numbers of Heavy Cavalry with armour as classed as Standard only.
The French had the edge on the British in terms of how they used their artillery, so these have been class as Superior, whilst the British is Standard only. The Indian States had heavy artillery that was more of a status symbol rather than being especially effective. Their rate of fire was low and they were pretty much immmobile once deployed, hence being rated Inferior but Heavy guns and immobile.
Both sides had plenty of fun and exotic troops, such as Elephants, Zumburak Camels and Rockets. The Elephants were certainly at the end of their useful period but are too fun to leave out, ditto the Zumburak Camels. All of these were largely used to break up the very large Light Infantry and Light Cavalry units that were found on the flanks of all armies of the period. So whilst not being especially devastating (famous last words!), their main use to attrit units on the flanks to limit their offensive abilities and to make them less able to resist attacks.
In terms of C&C, the British had the edge (think Clive of India) but the French did have good commanders too. So here the British have the slight edge. In contrast the Indian and Afghan commanders are much less able in comparison, to reflect their tendency to switch sides, to go raiding after the baggage etc. Again they did have the odd excellent commander, but rarely so.
The List
French
& British Infantry – Superior
Infantry.
European
Infantry – Standard Infantry.
Scottish
& Ships Crew - Inferior
Infantry for Shooting but Superior Infantry for Melee.
Sepoys
& State Troops - Standard
Infantry but Inferior Class for Rally.
Light
Infantry – Inferior Light
Infantry.
French
Artillery - Superior Medium.
British
Artillery - Standard Medium.
Indian
Siege Artillery - Inferior,
Heavy, Immobile (possibly shoot every other Turn to reflect long
reload times).
Elephants
- Inferior Light Artillery,
Infantry Move Rate, No -1 for Moving, Large Target, Ignore Terrain
penalties.
Camel
Zumburaks - Inferior Light
Artillery, Light Infantry Move.
Rockets
- Inferior Light Artillery
(range of Medium Artillery). Deviate on D6. 1 – Miss, 2 – 3
Deviate and hit next nearest unit, 4 – 6 Hit target.
Indian
Light Cavalry – Inferior
Cavalry.
Indian
Heavy Cavalry – Standard
Cavalry.
French
Commands - 1-2 Dithering, 3-5
Dependable, 6 Dashing.
British
Commands - 1- Dithering, 2 -5
Dependable, 6 Dashing.
Indian
Commands (Light Infantry & Light Cavalry) - 1-3
Dithering, 4-5 Standard, 6 Dashing.
So there we have it. I hope you found this interesting and possibly informative too. As mentioned at the start, this is very much our take on things and the above has been done to try and balance things to make for a fun game. Please feel free to change, tweak or amend things to your hearts content. As always any suggestions to improve things would be grealty appreciated.
TTFN.
I’m not overly familiar with Honours of War and 18th century India isn’t something I’ve ever gamed. So, on this basis I can’t really offer much by way of advice. From what I have read of this period I would say your list/comments look broadly right.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I might be tempted to add is something to reflect the ferocity of the Afghans. With regards to the various Indian groups again it might be worthwhile considering some adjustments for certain “martial” groups - such as, say, Rajputs. Possibly Sikhs too, but that may well be in a later time period.
Cheers,
Geoff
As long as they feel broadly right, then I'd be happy Geoff! We could add more 'chrome' as it were for the various tribal groups, but to keep things simple we've gone for a generic classification for them.
DeleteInteresting info on the force construct … and of course the elephants must be in :-) The clock is ticking on this one, where has that time gone!
ReplyDeleteElephants a must as you say Norm! The clock is ticking and it is certainly focusing my mind.
DeleteVery interesting Steve, i hanker after some ‘India’ type project so this is food for thought ?
ReplyDeleteGlad it might be of use Matt. It is our first stab at this, so no gaurantee it's right, but we are happy with it! It would be quite easy to add a few colourful units to your existing SYW collection, just in case you fancy dipping your toe and all that;).
DeleteI know near to nothing about this period, but find reading your processes very interesting. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you liked our approach as it were Richard:). I could do more research, buy more books etc but at present I'm happy with where we're at at present. Fascinating period though, outside of the military aspects, with incredible wealth, opulence, art and sadly sadistic violence.
DeleteI’m not overly familiar with HoW or anything from India except the food, so I can’t really offer up any useful advice.
ReplyDeleteGood luck with the deadline though! 😀
It doesn't seem to be a period with much interest to people, until Wellington turns up and does his stuff (with his brother in able support of course). Now the food is something that most people can enjoy and of 'foreign' cuisine, is my favourite by a long stretch. Nose still to the grindstone as only 30 days left, give or take, before the show!
DeleteSounds interesting and all quite reasonable from what I've read, are you going to have a keep the powder dry rule or is that just reflected in the better British command rating?
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
Glad it sounds reasonable to you too Iain. We are trying to keep things simple, so the better British command rating and +1 to the Fire Initiative should help reflect keeping their powder dry. Of course you could quite easily add in some weather where it gets wet and everyone simply has to get stuck in!
DeleteApart from Plassey, I don't know very much about the fighting in India during the Seven Years War either but I am intrigued, especially after seeing this video on YouTube about the exploits of British general, Eyre Coote in India.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED8TBbvrLt4
And with my collection in 10mm, it would be interesting if Pendraken extended their SYW range with some Sepoys in period uniform, etc. However, I was slightly puzzled by the "Scottish" troop type (aren't they British also?), effectively making them Inferior at musketry than Sepoys. Could you provide more information on your thinking there, please? For example, I can think of at least one Scottish Line regiment that not only fought at Fontenoy and Culloden but was also one of the "Minden Six" - the 25th Regiment of Foot - suggesting that no special rules are required for "Scottish" regiments (unless you're thinking of the Highlanders used in a light infantry role in Germany?).
~ David Henderson
Thanks for commenting David:)! Some Sepoys would be great, that's for sure, but I doubt there would be much demand, until the Wellingtonian period as it were, which seems to get the most attention.
DeleteThe Scottish troop type is purely fictional and part of our narrative for this game, where Bonnie Prince Charlie and some of his Clans, bored of being in 'retirement' have decided to try and make their fortune etc by helping the French trading companies in India. So think the '55 rather than the '45! Hope that makes sense?
Weird...I am sure I commented here already Steve! I am sure in the scale you are doing, you could repurpise Sepoys from a different Era??. I am looking forward to seeing the end result of all your labour's in the not too distant future!
ReplyDeleteWith the way Blogger does its own thing these day Keith, quite possibly so, but nothing appeared in my mail for approval nor the Spam folder. The wonders of technology!
DeleteI did plan on using some AWI Militia figures for my Sepoys, but in the end plumped for the Ottomans as you've seen. Sadly no other ranges that I'm aware of that I could pilfer for 'proper' Sepoys.
Painting has been impacted by real life, so behind schedule at present, with other interuptions in the pipeline too, such as NZ vs Italy in the RWC tonight!
Looking forward to seeing them on the Table Steve in a couple of weeks, if you are a Podcast listener you might find this of interest - some good episodes on India and the EIC.
ReplyDeleteCheers
Stu
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/empire/id1639561921
Only two weeks to go is really focussing my mind at present Stu. Still plenty to do so making a list in order of priority to help maintian focus! Not a podcast listener but might check this out though, so thanks for the heads up:).
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